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Quote de jeur #6 May 25, 2007

Posted by Andreas in History, Politics, Quotes, Society.

I came across this quote in a book called Escaping the Matrix by Richard Moore and thought it was quite scary and uncomfortably pertinent to our current situation, especially considering the recent wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the future imperialist wars that are surely in the pipeline.

Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship… [V]oice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.

– Hermann Goering, interviewed during the Nuremberg Trials, April 18, 1946.



1. Richard Moore - May 26, 2007

It’s even more scary when you consider that Prescott Bush, the President’s grandfather, was the Nazi’s banking agent in the US, and his factories in Silesia used slave labor from Auschwitz during the war. There’s more than a metaphorical parallel between the Third Reich and the neocon regime, which many are calling the Fourth Reich.

2. Andreas - May 28, 2007

Wow, thanks for the post, Richard, and yes, I agree, that historical connection makes the Goering quote even more scary.

I actually just finished reading your book last night. Thoroughly enjoyed it! I’m actively looking for books like Escaping the Matrix these days. Books that put our current situation into the proper (i.e. non-Matrix) historical context and suggest solutions. I really enjoy Daniel Quinn’s work and read David Korten’s The Great Turning with great interest.

I’m pretty much on a wavelength with you on most of what you have to say in your book, but was wondering to what degree you think you have been consciously influenced by anarchist ideas? I ask, because many of your concepts are consistent with anarchist ideas (non-hierarchical organisation; direct, participatory democracy instead of representative democracy; a rejection of conventional “politics”; decentralisation and a system of nested councils of delegates with decision making located in grassroots communities; etc.). Your vision is particularly in tune with much of Murray Boockchin’s work and social ecology (you do have a quote by him, but don’t refer to him beyond that). I was also wondering what your thoughts are on Michael Albert’s work on participatory economics.

All of these separate strands really appeal to me and I think we should be able to use aspects of them to weave together a coherent vision for a better future.

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